so what choice is there? your info owned by a racist corporation (twitter, fb, etc) or your info owned by everyone including your gov and your abusers (masto). hmm.

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decentralization = blocks are meaningless, abusers win, and those most comfortable here tend to never experience dealing with harassment.

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@mo

We have to build off what's around. I always said that Mastodon/ActivityPub is just a step on that evolution. We still don't quite have the tools to grow our communities while keeping them safe.

The us owning our own data will be the next step. But making systems safe from abuse is something only beginning (see MonsterPit fork which properly hides profiles, does blocks, disables replying, etc).

@mo

But even then the problems are still human. This was explored in this thread a year ago on metafilter. A tightly moderated liberal-leaning discussion forum that hadn't properly dealt with the whiteness of its users and mods.

metatalk.metafilter.com/25225/

@zzz i certainly agree about it being a stepping stone. i just wish the discussion about privacy was prioritized...

thanks for sharing i’ll check it out!

@mo well, they don't own it, they can simply look at it.

people could still see everything you posted publicly on Twitter if you blocked them simply by logging out. honestly the block button there was only useful for pissing people off. instead of blaming the system, perhaps you should just not post things publicly that you don't want to be public.

if you want things to be private, use end to end encrypted chat, like xmpp with omemo or delta chat.
@mo well if you didn't want unsolicited replies from strangers you shouldn't have posted it publicly

@mo Not sure I fully agree on that. Decentralization definitely comes with challenges, but a lot of the poor design choices in masto are... Poor design choices in masto. Not things that could be fixed by making things centralized.

@mo Not denying your experience or anything like that, btw. I only vaguely know what you are talking about and there might be things in there that are products of decentralization... I just am not aware of them.

@garbados they shouldn’t be called blocks bc they don’t work like blocks.

@garbados i’m not sure i understand what you want to have explained.

@mo i mean, what is the difference between a block and a block?

i'm working on some moderation tech so i take concerns like yours really seriously.

@LydiaConwell they do not serve the actual purpose of blocking.

@mo Yes, but what makes decentralisation particularly bad? Anyone can start a new account on the ad-verse platforms. Isn't it just the same here?

@LydiaConwell i haven’t called it bad. i’m saying it has drawbacks. and yes you can do that but it’s particularly frustrating here when they can interact with your content from a blocked account.

@mo I see, blocking doesn't actually block ... What's the use in that?

@LydiaConwell i’m not the one to answer that. that’s the exact thing i’d like to get answers for.

@mo

hm, i think the problem is the implementation of decentralization and not the decentralization itself.

but i absolutely aggree with everything else. :/
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